The worst gay rights arguments

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As the title implies, I'm going to look at the "gay-rights" arguments that really scrape the bottom of the barrel.  I hope that whatever side of the debate your on, you can agree that these arguments don't hold water.  To emphasize this, I'm going to try to sound as neutral as possible.

1. Separation of Church and State is in the Constitution.  So you can't use Christian morality to outlaw same-sex marriage.

This argument stems from a misunderstanding of what Separation of Church and State is.  The phrase appears nowhere in the Constitution.  It was in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to a church that was worried Jefferson would force his Deism on the churches.  Jefferson assured them the first amendment would protect their freedom.  So the question is, what does the first amendment do?  It prevents the government from establishing a state religion.  Outlawing same-sex marriage does not establish a religion.  It doesn't force anyone to become a Christian anymore than it forces them to be Jewish, Muslim, Mormon or any other faith that sees homosexuality as sin.  Also, it doesn't prevent anyone from using their religion to motivate their politics.  If you truly believe your religion, it should influence your decisions or you should consider if you truly believe it or not.  You want real Separation of Church and State?  How about having the government butt out of marriage entirely since it finds its origin in religion and different religions have different views of marriage anyway (e.g. Islam and some forms of Mormonism permit polygamy.)

2. The way things are, the LGBT community are 2nd class citizens.

No they aren't.  They have the same rights everyone else does.  Including marriage.  To elaborate, a homosexual can marry someone of the opposite sex, but not someone of the same sex.  And a heterosexual can marry someone of the opposite sex, but not the same sex.  We have equal rights.  The LGBT goal would make more sense if they asked for a new right since the equality they ask for already exist.

3. It's unconstitutional to out-law same-sex marriage since marriage is a right.

Marriage is not a right, it's a privilege.  If you read the Constitution you'd know that.  And again, my previous points stand.

4. Homosexuality is accepted by the majority as normal and thus, no longer immoral.

First off, I doubt the claim at the majority support it since most states ban same-sex marriage and (as of this writing) only 17 states allow it.  Last I checked, 17 out of 50 was not a majority.  Second, even if that was true, to say that the population decides right and wrong is insane at best and dangerous at worst.  There was a time when slavery was considered acceptable by many.  Years before even that it was common for people to rape the women of the country they conquered.  Was any of this right?  (Rhetorical question.  If you answer "yes", please see a therapist.)  To quote Leo Tolstoy:
Wrong doesn't cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.-Leo Tolstoy
5. People are born homosexual, so it would be wrong to not allow them what they want.

Some scientists speculate the same thing about alcoholics, drug-addicts and sociopaths.  Does that make what they do right? (Again, a rhetorical question.)  If this were true, these conditions would be more like diseases.  But as someone I know (who was an alcoholic) put it, what he did wasn't totally involuntary.  He chose to get drunk just as he chose to stop and ultimately kick alcoholic beverages out of his life all together.  Just as people have left the LGBT lifestyle.

6. What about infertile couples?  They can't have children either and your Bible says marriage is for having babies.

This argument is a reply to oft-quoted argument against same-sex marriage by pointing out that same-sex couples can't naturally produce a child.  There counterpoint, however, is a strawman.  This may shock some people, but the Bible says sex (in wedlock) was not only for child rearing but for pleasure.  It was designed to be a beautiful experience... then humanity ruined it like everything else.  Proof?  Song of Songs. :iconnuffsaidplz:  Besides, homosexual behavior causes serious health problem.  HIV being only a tip of the ice-berg.  An infertile couple is still natural and, as long as they are being responsible and faithful, they won't contract STDs.

7. People used religion (i.e. Christianity) to justify not letting interracial couples marriage.

Those people were also stupid.  The Bible is shown to be very anti-racist, including having interracial couples (like Ruth and Boaz.)  And another thing, PLEASE stop equating what you do to the way other people look.  It's nonsensical at best and insensitive at worst.
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8. If you don't support the LGBT, you're homophobic!

You keep using that word.  I don't think it means what you think it means.- Inigo Montoya, "The Princess Bride."
Furthermore, if someone was in a lifestyle that was harmful wouldn't you try to convince them out of it?  We do this with alcoholics, why not homosexuals?  Especially since homosexual behavior brings damage that makes alcoholic damage look miniscule.  Frankly, I could argue I love and care for them more than those who try to push for this behavior.

9. Legalizing gay marriage won't affect anyone.

I think the redefinition of mankind's oldest and most important institution would affect everyone.  Also, some LGBT advocates agree it is to affect everyone as to make people stop viewing homosexuality negatively.  Now I know some of you are saying, "Not THAT kind of effect."  Sinful acts never just affect one or two people, it often affects whole communities and even countries. Achan's sin in Joshua 7, and David's sin in 2 Samuel 24 are a couple good examples.  As for some modern examples, Spain and Argentina have greatly deteriorated the family structure ever since same-sex marriage was allowed.  In the Netherlands, there is a decline in marriage rates even though same-sex marriage is allowed. To help explain my point (on this topic and others), I recommend the book "Homosexuality ad the Truth of Politics."  Now before you shoot this down as biased, there are LGBT advocates that agree with this book.  In fact, the leader of H.O.P.E. (Homosexuals Oppose Pride Extremism) wishes that this book was required reading in schools!

Also, this journal explains the problems of same-sex parenting.


Any thoughts?  Do you agree?  If not, why?  Did I miss any?  Leave your thoughts in the comments and please act like an adult.
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Where in the Constitution does it say that marriage is a privilege? I believe that it's a right.